INDIANA: Well, especially lately, anything that deals with the body or with sexuality gets talked about in terms of obscenity, even things that everybody does—everybody who has any kind of life, anyway.
DERN: There are people on the ratings board and so froth who don’t want certain scenes in the film.
INDIANA: See, I find that shocking.
DERN: It is! There are people who come up and say, “What graphic love scenes.” I think, How can a love scene be graphic? Have you seen Total Recall? In this R-rated movie you see a man who you’ve seen being in love with and sleeping with this fabulous woman shoot her right through the head. “Consider this a divorce” is supposed to be the funniest line in the movie. And Nick and I can’t make love? That’s scary. And our hero? Arnold Schwarzenegger? Using a body as a shield against bullets? Hey—the world’s a big place, and people get away with what they get away with, but to attack David for doing things I’ve seen in many movies, that’s weird.